The Two Conceptions
PROVERBS 13:9
9 ¶ The light of the righteous rejoiceth: but the lamp of the wicked shall be put out.
Notice - Two groups here – one with a lamp that has oil and light and rejoicing because of the light, and the another has a lamp but their oil has gone out and they are in darkness – and we know that darkness is this age that we are living in, and light is not the written word, but revealed word.
MATTHEW 25:1-12
1 ¶ Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. (that was the sounding of the message of the hour)
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. (This is not denominations; this is message associated people who have heard the cry of the message of his second coming)
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. (the marriage is what is going on right now – the marriage isn’t the wedding supper, that comes after the marriage, the marriage is now)
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
This portion of scripture is a prophecy of what is taking place among the message ranks right now at this time.
The Two Conceptions – last week “The Two Births” continuation
“Conception” – definition…
1. the action of conceiving a child or of one being conceived.
2. the forming or devising of a plan or idea. (a seed thought conceived in the mind)
Notice that these two meanings are very similar in that one is in the flesh realm and the other is in the spirit realm. But then we know that there is also a conception in the soul by the revelation of the word – 3 realms of man, Body, Spirit, Soul.
Everything begins with a conception, whether it is a thought that is conceived in the mind or a seed that is conceived in the womb of a mother, or when God reveals his word to you for the day that you live in, and that is a conception in the soul – that is eternal life in your soul.
To bring forth any form of life there must first be a conception.
Before you can have a crop of wheat you must first have wheat seed planted in a field, this is the only way that life is brought forth, is by conception, and we can see this truth across all levels of nature.
When it comes to human beings we know that this is also the truth, because a woman is a field, and a man has seed, and we know that it is not enough for the woman just to know about the man, there must be first a marriage and then a knowing of the man with the woman that involves seed, then there is conception and new life comes forth.
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182 It reminds me of churches today. Sometimes we can build the most prettiest church, we got so, and have the best lot of deacons and everything else like that; and a big congregation, the mayor of the city, and everybody coming to it, and bragging about it. But if they haven't been in contact with the new Birth, with the Male, Christ, you've got a nest full of rotten eggs. They'll lay there and rot, every one of them.
183 What we need today is a good old-fashion nest cleaning, all the way from Presbyterians, Baptists, all the way down, Pentecost and all. You've got to come in contact with Jesus Christ, Life. He is the One. The hen can lay an egg, but it will not hatch unless she's been with the male bird.
184 And God Almighty, God the Father, overshadowed the virgin Mary, and created in her womb a Blood cell which brought forth the Son of God without a sexual desire. (Notice that he is talking about a conception that came in a different way to what would be considered the normal way by sexual desire)
So we see that there are two different examples shown in the bible of how a woman can conceive and bring forth a child.
One way is by the spoken word without sensation (and that was God’s original plan for the human race), and the other way was by sexual desire, and that was not God’s perfect plan, but only his permissive will, and that was associated with a sensation, and God’s permissive will carries a lot of problems and suffering for man. Jonah…
So one way was to conceive by a sensation, and the other way was to conceive without a sensation.
***Notice that Eve in the beginning was presented with these two ways of conception; and because she couldn’t wait for God’s way by the spoken word without sensation, by deception she chose the wrong way to conceive and bring forth life.
JEHOVAH.JIREH.1_ GRASS.VALLEY.CA JJ 37-72 THURSDAY_ 62-0705
30 Now, we know the life is in the male sex; it's in the blood, the hemoglobin. Through there the hen can lay an egg, but if she hasn't been with the male bird, it'll never hatch. Certainly, it's not fertile. That's the way I got, made many rude statements, saying a female bird can lay a nest full of eggs, and she can be as loyal to them as she wants to be; she can hover them and--with her wings, and turn them every few minutes so they'll be sure to hatch. And--and she'll get so hungry, and fast, while she's on the nest to be loyal to those eggs, until she gets so poor she can't fly off the nest. If she wasn't with the male bird, and those eggs fertile, they'll lay right in the nest and rot if she wasn't with the mate. That's exactly.
And that's about the way our churches has got, just took in a bunch under cold formal profession, some mystic dance or some sensation. And what do they do? Disbelieve the Word, till we got just a nest full of rotten eggs. It's time to clean the nest and start over again. Until they come in contact with the Male, Christ Jesus, and get borned again of the Word, then they're got to hatch, because it's Life.
169-1 PERGAMEAN.CHURCH.AGE - CHURCH.AGE.BOOK CPT.5
Here also was the answer to Matthew 7:21-23
"Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father Which is in heaven.
Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy Name? and in Thy Name have cast out devils? and in Thy Name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity."
Jesus does not deny that they did the mighty works that only the Holy Ghost can accomplish by way of men. But He did deny ever knowing them. These weren't backsliders. These were wicked, unregenerate, reprobates. These were the seed of Satan.
And there it is. You CAN'T claim that manifestation is the evidence of being Spirit-born, Spirit-filled. No sir. I will admit that true manifestation is the evidence of the Holy Spirit doing mighty acts, but it is NOT the evidence of the individual being Spirit-filled, even though that individual has an abundance of those manifestations.
The evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost today is just the same as it was back in the day of our Lord. It is receiving the Word of truth for the day in which you live. Jesus never did stress the importance of the Works as He did the Word. He knew that if the people got the WORD the works would follow. That is Bible.
It is not that these ones didn’t know about him, it is that he didn’t know them – he knew about them as far as being aware of them, because he is God and he has knowledge of all things, but he didn’t know them in the way of his seed word for the age being in them by revelation – by a pregnation in their soul.
***It is when he knows you by your faith in the revealed word for your day, that is when he truly knows you, and that is actually His faith in you, His seed in you, and that is the big difference, and that doesn’t come by a sensation of the spirit level realm, it comes by an experience of the word being revealed by the Holy Spirit into the subconscious realm of your soul – that is the true conception in this hour, that is the new birth by the spoken word seed.
MATTHEW 25:10-12
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
These two groups (the wise and the foolish “denominations”?? – “virgins”) are the ones that have heard the midnight cry of the message by the messenger announcing the second coming of the Lord – this is message believers, and notice, there are two groups of woman like there were two woman (Mary and Elizabeth) in the middle of the bible, and the difference with these two woman was in the way they conceived seed.
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114 God can do without you, He can do without me, but we can't do without Him. We've got to have Him, for He is Life, and He alone. Not to know His Book, not to know this, or know that, or know the creed. "But to know Him is Life," know Him as the Person, Christ in you, the Word made flesh in you. That's knowing Him. When He, you and He, became, becomes one, like I said last night in The Super Sign. He has got to come in you. You! God and man must come one. You're conscious of your littleness.
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89 And that's the only way that you're ever going to know Him, is to meet Him. See? Now, "To know Him is Life," not even know His Word, as good as It may be. Yet, you've got to know Him. "To know Him is Life." (He is talking about the revealed word)
JEHOVAH.JIREH.2_ LOUISVILLE.MS FRIDAY_ 64-0403
29 And the Christianity is misrepresented to people. Christianity has been represented to people as a declaration of creed. Christianity is a living Being, Jesus Christ, the resurrected, God that's alive and among us now. Christianity is a Person, not a creed. "To know Him is Life." Not even know His Word; that isn't Life. "Know Him," and He is the Word.
30 A fellow said to me, not long ago, he said... I was just discussing about the what we thought about a certain Scripture in the Bible. This fellow was quite a scholar. He said, "Well, you just don't know your Bible."
31 I said, "I know the Author real well." So, that's the main thing, if I know Him. He will take care of the rest of it. "To know Him is Life."
***Both the wise and foolish virgins have lamps – they all looked the same on the outside, they can all quote the bible and the prophet’s message.
- The foolish have lamps but no oil deeper down where you can’t easily see, this is a person with the written word of the message of the hour but with no revelation in their soul, they look the same on the outside but there is no revelation in their soul to go with their lamps.
And then there are the wise virgins who do have oil in their vessel with their lamps, notice that their oil is kept in a different compartment to their lamps, it is in a deeper realm of the compartment of the soul, they have something deeper which is the revelation of the written word in their soul realm.
***It is not to just know the written word in your spirit realm by your memory, but to know Christ by the revelation of the written word by way of the new birth in the soul – and that is an experience where there is no sensation but it is by the revelation of the word as it was with Mary’s conception.
THIRST_ TUCSON.AZ V-16 N-6 SUNDAY_ 65-0919
121 We always say today, people try to say, "We compare. We've got to compare Bible leaf with Bible leaf, Scripture with Scripture." That isn't the Truth. No, it isn't the Truth. "This Greek word means this, and this means that." The Greeks themself, way back in the Nicaea Council, and them writers back in there, they had different forms. One believed this way, this Greek scholar meant this, and the other one said this one meant it this way. And they fussed over It. We don't need interpretation of Greek scholars or Greek words.
122 "To know Him is Life," the Person, Christ Himself! Not comparing. It's a revelation that God built His Church upon. And if we don't build upon that same Church... The Bible said, "Abel, by faith!" And faith is a Divine revelation. See, faith is a Divine revelation. All right. This whole Thing is built upon the revelation then, and unless this is revealed to you! Jesus said, "I thank Thee, Father, that Thou has hid these things from the wise of this world, and revealed it to babes such as will learn." See, now, the whole thing is built there, you've got to know the Person!
So the wise virgins have a divine revelation of the word of this hour that has revealed Christ to them personally – and the other group have only got there lamp of “God sent a prophet, and water Baptism, and the serpent seed doctrine, and seven church ages, and 6 seals are open”.
So this is Mary and Elizabeth again as it was shown in the middle of the bible, both were save woman, both were a part of what God was doing for that hour, but the difference between these two women was in the way they conceive seed.
- In the Old Testament at the beginning of the bible, it starts with a woman that had the choice of two ways to conceive seed. One way was be the spoken word without sensation; the other way was by the seed of the serpent with sensation.
- At the beginning of the New Testament in the middle of the bible we see two ways of conception acted out again by two woman – Mary by the visitation of an angel with a message by the spoken word and without sensation, and Elisabeth by the seed of a man Zacharias that partially doubted the angel’s message and by a sensation.
- And now at the end of the Bible in this age that we are living in we find there are again two ways to conceive in this end time age.
Your spirit realm is where the anointing falls – this is where your emotions and your spiritual sensations exist.
***But in the subconscious realm of the soul there is no faculty for sensation because it is either faith or doubt, and that is where the revelation of the word is to abide.
174-2 PERGAMEAN.CHURCH.AGE - CHURCH.AGE.BOOK CPT.5
… It is at such a time as this that the messenger of Malachi must come. Then in the latter rain will come a Mount Carmel showdown. Watch this carefully now to see it in the Word. John was the forerunner of Malachi 3. He planted the former rain and was rejected by the organizations of his day. Jesus came and had a Mount Transfiguration show down. The second forerunner of Christ will sow for the latter rain. Jesus will be the showdown between the denominations and creeds, for He will come to back up His Word and take His bride in the rapture. The first showdown was Mount Carmel; the second was the Mount Transfiguration, and the third will be Mount Zion.
377-1 A.RESUME.OF.THE.AGES - CHURCH.AGE.BOOK CPT.10
Now as this concluding chapter was given in order to trace the two churches and two spirits from Pentecost to their consummation, we will take this final time to show this in the Laodicean Age.
377-2 This age started just after the turn of the twentieth century. As it was to be the age in which the true church would return to being the bride she was at Pentecost, we know that there must of necessity be a return of dynamic power. The believers sensed this in their spirits and began crying to God for a new outpouring such as was in the first century.
Azusa Street, Los Angeles revival account of 1906 - William Seymour was the man that spearheaded that revival.
“Divine love was wonderfully manifest in the meetings. They would not even allow an unkind word said against their opposers or the churches. The message was ‘the love of God.’ It was a sort of ‘first love’ of the early church returned. The ‘baptism,’ as we received it in the beginning, did not allow us to think, speak or hear evil of any man. The Spirit was very sensitive, tender as a dove.”
One man at Azusa said, “I would have rather lived six months at that time than fifty years of ordinary life. I have stopped more than once within two blocks of the place and prayed for strength before I dared go on. The presence of the Lord was so real.”
Scores of people were seen dropping into a prostrate position in the streets before they ever reached the mission. Then many would get up , speaking in tongues without any influence from the Azusa people. God had come to accomplish His work!
G. H. Lang reports that some who came to investigate were baptised in the Holy Spirit in their lodgings.
“Scores of personal and eyewitness accounts attest that many who came to ridicule the meetings were knocked to the floor where they seemed to wrestle with unseen opponents, sometimes for hours. These people generally arose convicted of sin and seeking God. One foreign-born reporter had been assigned by his paper to record the “circus-like” atmosphere in a comic-relief fashion. He attended a night-time meeting, sitting far in the back. In the midst of the meeting a young woman began to testify about how God had baptized her with the Holy Spirit when she suddenly broke into tongues.
After the meeting the reporter sought her out and asked her where she had learned the language of his native country. She answered that she didn’t have any idea what she had said, and that she spoke only English. He then related to her that she had given an entirely accurate account of his sinful life, all in the language of his native tongue .” IDFC art.
Other eyewitnesses reported seeing a holy glow emanating from the building that could be seen from streets away. Others reported hearing sounds from the wooden building like explosions that reverberated around the neighbourhood. Such phenomena caused onlookers to call the Fire Department out on several occasions when a blaze or explosion was reported at the mission building. The Child Welfare Agency tried to shut down the meetings because there were unsupervised children within and around the building at all hours of the day and night. The Health Department tried to stop the meetings because they said the cramped quarters were unsanitary and a danger to public health. God-hungry Christians flocked in from everywhere.
What seemed to be the answer came as many began to speak in tongues and manifest gifts of the Spirit. It was then believed that this was indeed the long awaited RESTORATION. It was not, for the latter rain can come only after the former rain which is the spring or TEACHING rain. The latter rain, then, is the HARVEST rain. How could this be the real thing when the Teaching Rain had not come? The Prophet-Messenger who was to be sent to TEACH the people and turn the hearts of the children back to the Pentecostal fathers had not yet come. Thus what was thought to be the restoration and the final quickening unto the rapture had not come. In it was a mixture of the unrighteous partaking of Spiritual blessing and manifesting in the Holy Ghost as we have kept pointing out to you. In it also was devil power as men were under the control of devils, yet no one seemed to realize it. Then, to prove that it was not the REAL, these people (even before a second generation had appeared) organized, and wrote their unscriptural doctrines and built their own fences as every other group ahead of them did.
THE.SPOKEN.WORD.IS.THE.ORIGINAL.SEED_ JEFF.IN V-3 N-2 SUNDAY_ 62-0318
72-1 Adam's bride could not wait, but she mingled her seed illegally, illegally. We are supposed to believe God's Word and that alone.
... God's Word's Eternal. It cannot fail. When He said, "Multiply and replenish the earth," that was God's eternal purpose. To carry it out you cannot die, because it's His Word. You have to live. And if that child would've been brought forth right, there'd have been no death; but she couldn't wait.
73-4 That's what's the matter today. You want some kind of a phony makeup with screaming, jumping, speaking in tongues, or something, instead of waiting for the real Word of God to be made manifest to the Bride.
That is why I am waiting for the real word to be manifested in this hour – God has promised it and he is able to keep his promise.
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145-202 Oh, brother, give me a church full of the Holy Ghost. God will do in one year what all theology's failed to do in two thousand years. You wait till the anointing of the church really strikes home to that faithful the little remnant. After the doors of the Gentiles is closed, oh, God will anoint a church then.
The Two Conceptions