Job – On the Ash Heap
REVELATION 6:9-11
9 ¶ And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: (Notice – the testimony which they held, not the testimony of Jesus Christ - these were the Jews since the time of Christ that were blinded on behalf of the gospel going to the gentiles. They had held true to the word of what they knew, so they were given eternal life)
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? (Notice that the spirit of revenge was still upon them even in the 6th dimension, so there was no nature change after their death on earth, but to enter into where the bride of Christ goes, it requires perfect love, and that only comes by the birth of the word for your age)
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
JOB 2:4-10
4 And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life.
5 But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. (The face is the full revelation of the person – in other words, he will curse you in the light of the fullness of your revelation)
6 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
7 ¶ So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.
8 And he took him a potsherd to scrape himself withal; and he sat down among the ashes.
9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.
10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.
Job – On the Ash Heap
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JOB 1:6-12
6 ¶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. (Notice how that he had not gone into more details of what he had been doing while he was walking up and down in the earth – but the Lord knew)
8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth (We notice that it was God that starts the conversation by boasting on Job), a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
(Look at how Satan is so good at reasoning – reasoning is one of the biggest traps and weapons that Satan uses on man – it is our own human reasoning that almost always sounds more right to us than the truth of God’s word)
10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. (Again we see that Satan is referring to the face of God, because the face is the when the full revelation of the person is revealed so that there is no misunderstanding of the identity of the person, and so this was something of the relationship that Job had with God which is showing us of the relationship that we have also come into with God in this age – a face to face relationship)
12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand (God set a boundary on Job’s trial and suffering just like He has set the boundaries of the seas). So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
**So the contest between God and Satan was that Satan was convinced that Job (under intense human suffering and trial) would curse God to His face. And so if the face is the when the full revelation of the person is revealed, then this contest is showing us a mystery of this age of when the full revelation of Christ has been made known to us.
**And so the book of Job is showing us a mystery of this hour like of what we spoke on last week of “Job – A Mystery of the Resurrection of this Hour”.
*Job had come into a level of an understanding of God that was bringing him into the view of the very face of God, and that is also our experience under this end time message ministry.
***And so we notice the confidence that God had in Job, because God knew that when a person comes up to this level of the revelation of God’s nature and purpose and character of the mighty God being unveiled before them, that it is impossible for that person to curse God with that level of the revelation of God dwelling in his heart.
**People that curse and blame God for things are people who lack the revelation of God’s nature and character and his great plan of redemption.
JOB 3:1-11
1 ¶ After this opened Job his mouth, and cursed his day.
2 And Job spake, and said,
3 Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived.
4 Let that day be darkness; let not God regard it from above, neither let the light shine upon it.
**So notice here how that Job never cursed God, he couldn’t with the level of revelation that he had accumulated in his heart of God, but because of the suffering and sorrow of his earthly journey, he wished that he had never been born and had to go through the suffering of earthly life, and so he cursed the day that his life had begun on the earth because at this stage he has no understanding of the three stages of his pre-existence, earthly journey, and eternal future home, all he knows about is this life from the cradle to the grave – that was his whole concept of life.
And so the book of Job is showing us how the revelation of those things of where he was before he came to earth, and where he will go after this life is over – these were the mysteries that were too be opened to his understanding during this time of his suffering, and these are also the mysteries that are being opened up to our understanding in this last age.
***So in our opening scripture, when the fifth seal was opened, we find that these were people that had already finished their earthy journey of the sufferings of their earthly pilgrimage – they had to die before that knowledge of life after death was made known to them.
These souls under the altar were people that didn’t even know Jesus. They were the Jews of whose fathers had rejected Christ but yet they held onto the Old Testament truth of what they knew of the word of God, and because they held onto the truth of what they knew, they were given eternal life.
**And so when the fifth seal was opened in this end time age, it showed us a people whose earthly life was finished upon the earth. And we know that this was in the sixth dimension (in a portion of it), and we also know that that is the same dimension as where the foolish virgins go, and also those who do good works to the elect of God.
**Remember that the gentile bride of 7 church ages are waiting under a different alter to those of this category of the 5th seal, because we know that there are two alters in heaven just as there was in the wilderness tabernacle. In each age those who qualified for the gentile bride category was birthed by the truth of the message that God sent though the messenger for their age.
***The word of the their messenger became a faith in their hearts for that age, and these are the ones that Jesus said that He would lose none, but if you don’t make the bride category, then you need to aim for one of these other categories of eternal life by at least being good to the bride. That is why the best thing that you can do is just to serve the Lord in the best way possible and to hold on to the word of God of what you know, and to live your life in the service of others – we should be doing the anyway as believers.
**Last week we spoke about that there were 3 different types of pain that unfolded throughout Job’s experience.
*There was first the pain of bankruptcy of the loss of his businesses and the loss of his 10 children – this was a pain of the heart and spirit.
*Then Satan smote Job from head to foot with boils that cause him great pain and discomfort of the flesh – in other words, he lost his health. First he has lost all of his substance of what had taken him years of hard work to accumulate, then he had lost his children, and now he had lost his health.
*Then after all that loss and the pain of that loss came the pain of the rejection of his family and friends and society – and notice how that Satan didn’t need to get permission from God for this one, he had studied human nature so well that he knew that this would be the likely default response by his friends and family with a little help from himself.
A little bit of negative rumour spread around about Job having some secret sins was mostly all it took, this worked so well that even the young children of his community despised him.
JOB 19:14-19 25-27
14 My kinsfolk have failed, and my familiar friends have forgotten me.
15 They that dwell in mine house, and my maids, count me for a stranger: I am an alien in their sight.
16 I called my servant, and he gave me no answer; I intreated him with my mouth.
17 My breath is strange to my wife, though I intreated for the children's sake of mine own body.
18 Yea, young children despised me; I arose, and they spake against me.
19 All my inward friends abhorred me: and they whom I loved are turned against me.
And we saw how that this last suffering of rejection came just before he received the revelation of the resurrection.
25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
We also showed last week that the book of Job represents the resurrection of this day between WW2 and WW3, because Ezra and Nehemiah is Revelation 9 (WW1 and WW2 – which is the Jews returning to their homeland under the 5th and 6th trumpet), and then Esther is Revelation 10 – a bride being married to the king after Vashti is put away who is a type of this last Pentecostal church age refusing to come into the Kings presence of a further part of the word. And then the book of Job is the resurrection of 7 church ages of sleeping saints which follows the maturity of Esther just before the third woe of WW3.
*So the book of Job is clearly dealing with the mystery of the resurrection that pertains to us in this hour between Esther coming into her maturity and the third woe of WW3.
***So God had a purpose to make himself known to Job, and God also has that same purpose and plan for our lives at this time also to make Himself known to us by the opening of the seven seals of the mystery of our pre-existence, earthly journey, and our future eternal home.
**Like Joseph in type.
Joseph had his pre-existence in his father’s house, then he goes to the prison house (a type of our earthly journey now), and then he is exalted from the prison house to Pharos house to rule and reign and live forever.
***So the opening of the word came in this day to reveal to you your origin and your destiny.
**Because when you see your origin and your destiny, then it brings your current trials of life into the perspective of the greater picture of where you are along the journey to your eternal home.
**So as this revelation breaks to your understanding, then you begin to realise that your sufferings in this life are only for a temporal season, and that they are a necessary part of the journey for the benefit of your eternal position in the great world that is to come, and that the sufferings of this life is just God in His mercy dealing with your character to shape you for that eternal place.
Joseph was shown his end from the beginning, but it required the prison house to prepare and shape his character for that great future in his future home.
**That is why you must understand that this life is the stage of the prison house of where your character is being developed for your eternal destination and that this is not your whole life, but that there is a Pharos house that comes after the prison house of this life.
JOB 14:1-2
1 ¶ Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble.
2 He cometh forth like a flower, and is cut down: he fleeth also as a shadow, and continueth not.
JOB 14:7-10
7 ¶ For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease.
8 Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground;
9 Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant.
10 But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
***Job had noticed in nature that the trees and the flowers lived again after they had died, but when you planted a man in the ground at his death, he didn’t seem to rise and live again.
*Job didn’t understand how that God was revealing in nature a mystery of man resurrection also, because the creation was created by God for the purpose of revealing redemption.
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E-11 … But the oldest book in the Bible was speaking of redemption, and yet redemption was far be--way before that. Redemption is one of the oldest things in the Bible. Did you know redemption was even before--the plan of redemption was laid out before the world was ever formed? Think of that. God foreseeing, and making a way of redemption before He even made the world. For the Bible plainly says that Christ was predestinated, foreordained, and was the Lamb of God, slain before the foundation of the world. That's right. Way before the world was made, God had a plan of redemption.
**So Job knew that God was a creator, but he didn’t know that God was also a redeemer. He didn’t know that creation was made for the purpose of revealing redemption.
So it wasn’t that God created the flowers just so that he could have nice flowers on the earth, but that He created the trees and the flowers in order to reveal the resurrection of man to man.
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E-34 See the plan, how God wants to redeem us? When we left Eden, it was a beautiful pair there in the garden of Eden, that lovely, little sweetheart, and the husband. And then by falling, God just brings us right back again through redemption, to redeem us right back to our origin again.
**So God had to create the earth and all that there is in it for the purpose so that he could reveal Himself to us as the great redeemer, and that is why that in His great mind there was already a Lamb slain even before there was the creation of a lamb on the earth.
***And right there before the foundation of the world you existed in the mind of God then of what you would be in eternity, and so when you see that, you will see many things like what Job saw because everything that is going on now is just the mind of God unfolding and being manifested from the thoughts of the back part of his mind, all the way through this life of our earthly journey to that eternal land where all pain and sorrow and death shall be done away.
**So God had a great plan to be able express Himself to his children and to reveal Himself to them personally, and so he had to pre-planned each of our lives of when we would be born, and where we would be born, and what church age we would be born into, and what nationality and family we would be born into etc – our birth and entrance into the world was pre-planned by God before the foundation of the world.
*But God doesn’t stop there at your birth, but then He begins to guide your earthly journey along certain pathways of experiences of struggles and difficulties and trials.
**And these trials are different for every person because God is personally preparing your character in this life for a certain role that you will fill in your eternal life that is to come, because when we look at these ones in the fifth seal of the souls under the alter in the sixth dimension, it was there character state that revealed who they were.
***This is why your trials are predestinated to you in order to set your character in the right channel for the category of life that you will go to after this life is over.
**And so from the cradle to the grave, nothing in your life happens by chance - nothing is a surprise to God, because God has set a boundary of what Satan can do to you.
**And so all of the trials and testings that you will ever go through in your life is pre-known and pre-planned by God and precisely designed for the purpose so that you will come to know Him as your Saviour and Redeemer and healer and provider, and all of these great expressions of who God is in his nature.
***This is why your trials in this life are much more precious than gold that perisheth, because the character that trials produce in your earthly journey is an eternal treasure that you will have for eternity. The trials in this life are only preparing you for your eternal habitation.
***And so when we look into this book of Job, we will see that it is dealing with these things of pre-existence, and earthly journey, and eternal destination, and when we know that, then it will help us to bring into perspective the purpose of our earthly journey in this temporal period of life and the sufferings of this life of the fact that our short time of affliction here on earth is designed by God to bring us into a far greater eternal weight of glory.
JOB 1:1
1 ¶ There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.
**So when we get to the first chapter and the first verse of Job, we notice how that the bible is introducing Job to us at a stage of his life of when Job had already become mature in his character and that it doesn’t tell us of the previous troubles and the trials of his life that it took to mould Job’s character into this level of maturity, yet we can be certain that this maturity in his life did not just happen by chance as if he was born that way, because character is not a gift, character is a victory.
**So right here at the beginning of the book of Job we see that so much is omitted from what he has already been through in his life to bring him to this place of maturity and revelation and of his standing with God and with man.
*So the trials of Job that are recorded in the book of Job were certainly not the only trials that he had suffered along the journey of his life up to this point, but what we read of here in the book of Job is probably no doubt the greatest trial of his entire lifetime – and we know for certain that God would not have allowed him to go through that level of trial if He had not previously trained and prepared Job for it.
I CORINTHIANS 10:13
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able (Sometimes you think the trial that God has allowed in your life is too great and will destroy you, but you must never forget that God is in full control, and He has not design the trial to destroy you but to build up your character); but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
God knows what is required in your life to bring you to a maturity of character.
To be continued - the Lord willing...